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robcayman:

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robcayman:

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jarnrls:

robcayman:

if money and profit are not problems, then why does more than half the…

1) i do not want to replace money, i want to take it out of the equation. see, people forget that money is little more than an intermediary in reality. you don’t have to replace it with anything. you simply need to change the approach you take to dealing with the world. it doesn’t have to be property based at all. there doesn’t have to be any kind of barter of goods. and communism that doesn’t spread the wealth equally is not communism. since both the USSR and Maoist China retained much of the wealth within the elite 1% at the authoritarian level, they cannot be considered true communism.

2) companies around the globe are downsizing every day in favor of autonomous systems, this does not happen magically, it is the result of constant research and development, and the only reason this is a problem, is because it means that the workers don’t get money. again money is the problem, not people or technology. and undesired labour is not the same as physical labour. contrary to popular opinion, many people have no qualms about physical labour at all. undesired labour is things like: menial work. mindless work. farm-work is one very good example of where this can be revolutionized by systemic change and autonomous technological application would be ideal. (click here for Dickson Despommier’s Rise of Vertical Farms)

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robcayman:

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jarnrls:

robcayman:

if money and profit are not problems, then why does more than half the world live on or under the poverty line?

government interference is the problem, not money…

your assuming two things here

1.) communism still ran on money. the Dictators benefited enormously from the implementation of false communism. and millions died because the communism was false. this cannot be held as an example of resource distribution.

2.) that i’m expecting people to shovel shit. (i specifically stated that there would be a systemic change and autonomous labor replacement (just double checked and i left out the word labor, sorry) so that either there would be no shit to shovel, or there would be some technological solution to shoveling shit. because we would no longer be wasting resources on work that nobody wants to do. London could no longer find people to clean their public toilets, and developed instead, the self cleaning public toilet.

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jarnrls:

robcayman:

if money and profit are not problems, then why does more than half the world live on or under the poverty line?

government interference is the problem, not money or profit. you live in africa, right? south africa. so tell me, with your centralized banking plan, business…

government has it’s flaws, but would these problems exist if there was no money driving the avarice? the people of Africa are actively kept too ignorant of current events to effectively make good decisions, while the ‘leaders’ use their superior educations and access to information to enrich themselves. this is not caused by their education, or their access to information. or by their positions as public servants. it is caused by the avarice that comes with money. money changes their public servant status to that of an Authoritarian. and that cant work. Zimbabwe is not the only proof. every country in the world suffers from the same problem.

if there was no money, no-one, in government or private sector, would have a reason to not do their jobs properly. since they would not be doing it unless it was what they wanted to do. the shortfall between human requirements and what we produce (if such actually exists) will quickly be filled by appropriate systemic changes and autonomous systems replacing pointless, or mindless work. because people are extremely capable and adaptable when the need arises.

we’ve been trying to value the world fiscally for 5000 years, and for 5000 years, we have had war and class separation and power-mongering. it doesn’t work. the entire system is completely flawed because it appeals specifically to our worst nature.

money is purely a system of subjective value, and does not permit for objective valuation at all (especially since the gold standard was done away with). this is a problem because objectivity is needed when making certain decisions. like how to distribute the world’s food supply (so that the starving can become productive and assist in the creation of global abundance, not just america dominating global markets and then wasting nearly a third of the world’s food while others starve) or how to harvest energy sources so that we don’t kill a planet in the process.

we’re valuing the wrong thing. and money is not a motivator. it is an obstacle. one that some are able to overcome, but most cannot, because money doesn’t work that way.

finally, money cannot work, because we’re not given a choice. we have to make money so that we can live. or we can live off grid, like outcasts from the world. this is not a choice, it is a set of options. neither one of which makes good sense.

Mirriam-Webster Definition of Capitalism:

an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

For those who dont know: that “private or corporate ownership” is 1% of the Global Population. 

Mirriam Webster Also Defines Oligarchy as:

1  : government by the few
2: a government in which a small group exercises control especially for corrupt and selfish purposes; also : a group exercising such control

 
Now YOU tell me… is the Untied States a Capitalist country, or a straight up Oligarchy?And if they are an Oligarchy, leaving 99% of Americans essentially as subordinate peasants in the world’s wealthiest nation, what does this mean for the other 6 billion people that look at the US and wish their lives were that good?Finally, Why do we tolerate this? The simple answer is ignorance. Most people have no idea that they are living a complete lie. Help them out, tell them the truth about their precious Capitalism. But don’t judge them, the lie is a very convincing one. Once enough people know, revolution will be inevitable, and the system can be changed to work for the people and not for profit.